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Building An App Into A Business: An Interview With Lisa Domican Of The Grace App



Apps are making an impact on all our lives, with applications spanning a spectrum from business right through to leisure applications. One of the more interesting apps to be developed in Ireland is the Grace App, which has been developed to assist the development of independent communication in autistic children. Here’s a recent interview that I conducted with the founder of the Grace App, Lisa Domican.

What is your product?

The Grace App itself is an App for replacing Picture Exchange Communication on the iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch which allows the user to control their own picture vocabulary and develop their own independent communication. I’ve also developed the business to provide workshops and presentations and I have plans for a training app for anyone who wants to help their child communicate.

Why did you found the company?

Grace App was inspired by my severely autistic daughter Grace and her unique ability to get what she wanted using pictures. She has learned to talk independently as a result of using Grace App consistently and after 11 years I got to hear my daughter call me “Mummy.”

I started the company “Grace App Communication” when I realised there was a need for a simple and accessible training system to teach your autistic child to get what they want without resorting to inappropriate and anti-social behaviour.

The process of getting a diagnosis, getting access to services and learning to be your child’s own teacher can take years and I want to enable parents and carers especially, to start helping their child from the moment they suspect there might be an issue; any time of the day or night, anywhere in the world.

Tell me a bit about the company?

We were founded in 2010, and are located in Greystones, County Wicklow.  Grace App Communication was created and founded by me, Lisa Domican. The App was co-developed and completely coded by Steven Troughton Smith.

How did you finance the product development?

We started with some practical support from O2 Telefonica with the donation of the devices to create the proto-type, and some great business mentoring.  However, like many digital start-ups, Steve and I have worked on this voluntarily for several years and we are only now starting to see a return. We have no borrowings and so we were in profit from the first App sold.

How do you market and sell the Grace App?

Apple lists the app world wide for a 30% share of the selling price. Steve and I share the rest. I market it entirely through social media.

Do you have the app available on Android yet or will it ever be?

Android is not a huge priority as the Apple interface allows for syncronisation and sharing of the App between devices to suit the user. A parent might buy an iPad but then graduate to bringing an iPod Touch out of the house or vice versa. The same App with the same individualised pictures will be available to the child at all times. 50% of our sales have been to customers exclusively using iPad so I am keeping an eye on the Tablet releases using Windows and Android but so far there hasn’t been a contender.

Who are the workshops that you do aimed at?

After creating the Grace App and presenting it for 12 months, I realised that there was a HUGE need for training in prompted communication that was not being provided – so my workshops have a value of their own. 2 hours of presenting and training with at least 30 minutes of Q&A takes hours to prepare. And after 10 years of study and practice in Autism – I am actually pretty good at it.

Training and Workshops are an ancillary to developing the core App business. As far as generating sales; I am taking part in some conferences internationally as a speaker and panelist from which I hope to generate a great deal of publicity, potential leads and contacts and sales.

How much does the app cost?

€30 for one download that can be installed on up to 5 devices.

Do you do a trial version or freemium version?

No trial version, no freemium. Grace App is intended to be controlled and owned by the user – so I have an ethical issue with a free version that bombards you with pop-ups asking for an upgrade purchase. I have a great website created by Redfly which has loads of videos demonstrating how the App works. I’ve written a comprehensive manual that is available free which explains how it works and I offer personal customer service via my Twitter, Facebook and email contact form.

Grace App is priced to encourage consideration and research. It is not about instant gratification but a planned and personally tailored approach to giving the user the ability to communicate their needs independently.

Is the “Grace App” going to be your main income eventually?

I would like to be able to devote all of my time to developing and growing Grace App and as every minute I spend away from children has to be worthwhile. So yes, I would like to be able to support my family and my daughter’s future with the company.

Do you have an exit strategy ?

No way – I am doing what I love. If we ever agree to sell the company, it will be to someone with the means to keep developing our vision and it will be conditional on employing me as a consultant to ensure we keep the product development focused on the needs of the user.

You’ve received a number of awards for the App, can you tell me what they were?

First up we won an Irish Web Award in October 2010. Then I got a United Nations World Summit Award for m-Learning and Education.  I recently got a “Women Mean Business” Award for “The Big Idea” and I am a finalist in the Social Entrepreneurs Social Impact programme.

Thank you Lisa for a wonderful and inspiring story. Have any of you used the Grace App or another app for your special needs child?



The Author:

Helen Cousins, a chartered accountant by profession, is a business mentor, trainer and consultant for a wide range of Irish SMEs, often working under the auspices of state agencies via her company Xcel Business Solutions. In a successful career spanning more than 25 years, Helen worked in accountancy practice for PricewaterhouseCoopers, and worked in Financial Controller and senior management positions in manufacturing industry, before starting her own consultancy for small businesses. Helen is also a self catering entrepreneur, operating her own self catering holiday home business in Wexford. She is a director and former Chair of the Irish Self Catering Federation, and she works closely with the tourist industry in Ireland. http://xbs.ie

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  • http://twitter.com/fredchannel Fred

    Great post Paul. regarding posting from Twitter to LinkedIn, it’s amazing how many people find great the fact that they can post one thing and send it to all platforms all the same time. That’s killing their personal branding. I guess they find it great based on the “I’m too busy and have no time for this. One shot does it all”
    People expect around 5 or 6 daily posts on Twitter, but only one or a couple of updates a day on LinkedIn, so you have have to make them count!
    It took a while for LinkedIn to implement the “Hide” option so you can hide from your updates those that kept sending meaningless updates to this professional platform. I bet many people disappeared from streams under that Bermuda Triangle without knowing it…

  • http://www.gwsmedia.com/ GWS Media

    Really useful post – thanks very much. Really liked the analogy, and the 3 steps. I totally agree that you can’t rest on your laurels, you’ve got to give people something to stay in touch about. We have included it in our weekly round-up of interesting things we’ve seen this week: http://onlinemarketing.gwsmedia.com/2010/07/gws-medias-weekly-round-up-linkedin.html

  • Anonymous

    I guess it is a bit like auto tweets on Twitter ….

    Yes the hide option works …. helps to declutter :-)

    Have a good weekend.

    P

  • Nialldevitt

    Hi Paul, great advice, point 3 is so important. Social media does not replace traditional networking it enhances & compliments it. Say hello online, make friends offline.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the comments and including the post on your weekly round-up of the week. Some useful articles on your weekly summary.

    P

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Niall for the comments. “Say hello online, make friends offline” is a great way to put it.

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Hi Paul,

    Well put! Social media channels help you connect with ‘virtual’ friends, but value is usually achieved through a ‘real’ meet.
    Keeping in touch is a way that many companies ensure loyalty and repeat business. It’s easy to forget those you haven’t been in contact with for a while. Its very easy to send a message to them and remind them that you still exist.

    Fantastic post Paul!
    Tina

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Tina. Have a great week!!

    P

  • http://www.seefincoaching.com/blog Elaine Rogers

    Nice post Paul, analogies very apt I think!!! It’s sink or swim in this new changing world of ours. I find providing information is invaluable – people are so glad to learn little tips and tricks about Social Networking for their business at the “real event” . I find I am growing into a connector (connecting others together) which sometimes doubles up as a referral :)
    They feel good, I feel good, win/win. I may not gain from the experience but I truly believe what goes around, comes around.
    And it’s a good way to refresh your “existence” :-)

  • Anonymous

    Elaine

    Thanks for the comments ….

    The willingness to reach out and help others is a wonderful characteristic to have. I am a big believer that those who give (with no agenda) will get. I think it is about giving without expecting a return that makes it powerful. You are dead right – money can’t buy the feeling of genuinely helping someone out!!

    Paul “Robin Hood of Careers” Mullan :-)

  • http://www.seefincoaching.com/blog Elaine Rogers

    What a great sign off Paul, and you have inspired my next Bloggertone post – thanks :)

  • http://www.tweakyourbiz.com Niall Devitt

    Hi Helen, What an Inspiring story and interview with Lisa. “She has learned to talk independently as a result of using Grace App consistently and after 11 years I got to hear my daughter call me “Mummy.”” This is what’s beautiful about technology and Lisa is the type of leader, Ireland’s needs right now, great piece!

  • http://twitter.com/xcelbusiness Helen Cousins

    Hi Niall,
    All I can add is that Lisa, Grace and their family are amazing & kudos to Steve, the developer too :)
    ~Helen

  • http://www.ivanwalsh.com Ivan Walsh, Media Writer

    Hi Helen, 

    What a great story on so many levels, both on a personal level but also in business. Deciding not to go freemium was/is a great move as it highlights the value of the product. And the awards confirm this. 

    Ivan

  • http://twitter.com/xcelbusiness Helen Cousins

    Thanks Ivan, I agree. The product is worth paying for, and in-app advertising would be inappropriate for the users. Interesting also how the app turns an iPod into a travel version of the iPad for days out.
    As you say, a great story on many levels. ~ Helen

  • http://twitter.com/graceapp lisa Maree Domican

    Thanks everyone and thanks Helen for sharing and making me feel like a proper grown-up business woman. xx

  • http://twitter.com/graceapp lisa Maree Domican

    Thanks everyone and thanks Helen for sharing and making me feel like a proper grown-up business woman. xx

  • http://www.tweakyourbiz.com Niall Devitt

    Hi Lisa, On behalf of Bloggertone: thank you for doing the interview and congrats on your success so far.  

  • http://twitter.com/xcelbusiness Helen Cousins

    Hi Lisa – your story is so inspiring, I couldn’t be more impressed. As the X-factor judges often say, you have no idea how good you are!
    Thanks a million for doing the interview and for being so honest and engaging.
    You are indeed a business woman :)
     
    ~Helen

  • http://twitter.com/xcelbusiness Helen Cousins

    Tonight, (Thursday 27 October), Lisa Domican will be featured on “Life With Autism” at 8:30pm on RTÉ One. I’ll post a link to it here afterwards, as it will probaly be available to view online in Ireland for 3 weeks. http://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/life_with.html  => Scroll down to Programme Three; “Life with Autism” for details.

    ~Helen

  • http://twitter.com/xcelbusiness Helen Cousins

    The programme in which Lisa and her family feature is available to view online in Ireland from RTE in until November 17.
    You can catch it here http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=1119112
    Lisa and her faily also appeared in this Saturday’s “You.” magazine, which forms part of the Daily Mail on Saturday.
    Best of luck to Lisa :)

    ~Helen

  • http://tweakyourbiz.com/ Niall Devitt

    As someone who has operated on both sides of the trade show fence – I can really take a lot from this post, and your advice. As always, interesting, educational and with a sense of humor – great work, Elish!

  • http://www.facebook.com/elish.bulgodley Elish Bul-Godley

    Great to hear that feedback! Noting like making aperson feel more than just a number and really meaning it too

  • Christina Giliberti

    And now we know why you are such a success Elish – you radiate with energy and charm….arhhh, you didn’t mention charming the crowd!
    Its diffcult to stay as ‘fresh’ if the day drags, but every passer by is a potential customer or client so each first impression counts.
    Exceelnt tips!

  • http://www.facebook.com/elish.bulgodley Elish Bul-Godley

    Awwshucks and Thank you. I did Write about Charming & Captivating the crowd in the style of a hypnotic Burlesque dancer – I hope that helped? http://tweakyourbiz.com/global/2012/04/13/ten-steps-to-captivating-your-audience-at-that-next-live-presentation/

    True you raise a great point about staying fresh and now I wish I had that in my post:. Here’s My advice : To keep the team fresh you can do 3. things
    1. Rotate their roles and position
    2.Let them take turns scouting the rest of the space to look at how other people are doing it. Whilst also letting them take turns networking off-stand.
    3. Let them take turns posting their favourite pics on instagram, twitter or on the company FB page . This makes them observe the environment more and allows the team to engage on social media in a structured way

  • http://www.callbox.com.my/ Christine Steffensen

    The key phrase here is ‘engage and socialize’. I know how intimidating and awkward it is when meeting new people but it’s part of the job. If you just cut the shy type within you and learn to enjoy the art of socializing it would be fun. If you’re hesitant to do the first move of asking names, just smile that’s the best strategy to start a conversation with your prospects. Just want to add this but all in all great post. ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/elish.bulgodley Elish Bul-Godley

    Thanks for that. I started out quite shy myself and found once i started performing on stage it actually helped my sales persona. I would suggest some warm up for the teams befor ethe even tif your sales manager has the time but to make it fun though. keep the team buzzy and motivated on site helps the atmosphere too. and like the post i would also suggest to those shy types to ask for an opening gambit . but you are right smiling changes your whole chemistry too.

  • http://www.callbox.com.my/ Christine Steffensen

    Thanks for the added tips Elish. Appreciate it much. :)