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My Interview With Anita Campbell On Visual Marketing, What Wows Her and Influences For 2012



After a frantic, but cheery Christmas and an excitable New Year, I thought mmmm, how do I top this? I know, I’ll interview Anita Campbell; head honcho of Smallbiztrends, Bloggertone and Bizsugar.

Now those of you who haven’t heard of Anita (Ermmmm, where have you been?), couldn’t have read her book ‘Visual Marketing‘ or have been inspired by her extensive knowledge of the marketing industry. To those people I say ‘shame on you….you best read this blog instead’, because one thing is certain; after my gruelling interview questions, she certainly knows her stuff!

The new book ‘Visual Marketing’ is a powerful advocate for show, not tell in marketing, but what visuals capture your attention and why?

I pay attention to logos and website headers.  Today, more than ever, we may be introduced to a business for the first time online — and you know what they say about first impressions. A prospective customer may make a snap judgment just based on a 5-second visit to your website or blog.

A great headshot is also important, given how many times people will look at your avatar on social media profiles, blog comments and in any online interviews you give.  I find I’m drawn toward interesting headshots — unusual backgrounds, headshots taken from unique angles (from above, below or sideways), or action shots that show the person doing something (even holding a phone to your ear or with a headset on).

A big smile helps.  If your teeth aren’t naturally bright, consider photo augmentation to correct that, similar to red-eye correction.  With so many people these days getting teeth whitening, that suddenly has become a feature people pay attention to.  And remember, a great photographer can work wonders with the right light filters, too.  Just look at the new avatar for Mari Smith, the Facebook expert.  It has brilliant lighting that makes her face and eyes come alive, and her teeth are so white!

Another good visual consists of 3-D marketing materials..  I’ve seen some terrific mailer pieces that can form a 3-dimensional item such as a photo cube with a few folds of cardboard.  We featured one in the Visual Marketing book that consisted of cardboard that could be folded into a 45-record player!

When it comes to marketing methods and campaigns, are you critical of others or are you ‘wowed’ by their ideas?

I’m a glass half-full person, so I tend to spot something I like most everywhere I am, and I easily overlook elements that are not quite perfect.  I think everyone should learn to scout new ideas by observing what others do — not to steal the idea and become a copycat.  Instead, borrow one or two elements just as general inspiration, and interject your own creativity to create something completely new.  To do that, you can’t be overly critical….  Spot what people are doing right, not what they’re doing wrong.

Your book details some excellent tips for how businesses can raise awareness, but what what you personally do to raise awareness for your own businesses?

Since my businesses are primarily online publishing businesses, we focus 90% of our marketing efforts online.  We create awareness through content marketing, social media and search engine optimization.  We do a little through advertising — mainly retargeting ads that remind those who’ve already visited the sites to come back and visit (they see our ads when they leave and visit other sites, and it serves as a reminder).

We also create awareness through outbound linking. If you want to get the attention of others online, a great way is to link to a blog post, video or other content item of theirs.  And use the person’s name and their company name in the text — that way they will spot it in their Google Alerts they’ve set up for references to themselves.  If you never link and never quote, it’s like going to a party and refusing to talk to anyone.  Don’t be surprised if no one wants to talk with you (or link to your blog!).

We do a small amount of marketing at key small-business events, either through my speaking or through sponsoring the event and having a booth there.  When you do event marketing, try to create some meaningful “leave behind” piece that catches the attention of those you connect with, and reminds them of you after they get back to the office.

For instance, if you’re speaking, a small “tips” sheet for each attendee is a nice gesture, and inexpensive.  Or if you’re exhibiting at an event, then some fun piece people will want to keep (such as a printed puzzle), or a useful shwag item, is good — you want something people will keep and have a reason to use after they leave the event.  Often these items are better than a standard marketing brochure.

With the advent of social media and video, are we seeing a natural trend towards visual marketing?

Social media definitely encourages us to be more visual!  Take Twitter, for example.  Even though you are leaving a tweet that is no bigger than 140 characters, just think of all the ways you can interject the visual:  your headshot and/or logo for the avatar; a custom Twitter background; and by attaching photos and videos to tweets (which now show up in tweet streams and Twitter sidebars.

Facebook and Google+ are designed to lend themselves to photographs.  It’s easy to load photographs in both sites and you can actually create and share photo albums. Also, when you share interesting visuals, your profiles and your news streams stand out because the visuals capture attention in a sea of drab text.

How important is it to create a mood using humour, mood, etc?

Strive to be memorable and remarkable with marketing, especially visual marketing.  One way to do that is to appeal to emotions and feelings, and you can do that through humor, or a sense of restful elegance, or a feeling of dynamism and energy.  You can convey a lot of mood or emotion just by the choice of colors, fonts and images you choose to use in your marketing.

But do understand that you take a bit of risk every time you interject mood and humour.  It’s easy for it to fall flat — not everybody responds to mood and humour the same way.  For instance, I happen to really like business cartoons, and we publish one every Friday on Small Business Trends.  We have readers who LOVE those cartoons — they are huge fans, just like I am — and they tell me that all the time.

But I will also tell you that I’ve actually gotten “hate” mail (maybe it wasn’t hateful, just a rather snarky complaint) from at least one person who thinks humour has no place in a serious business publication. Well you can’t please everyone 100% of the time, and it’s not realistic to think you will.

I find adverts these days hit and miss when it comes to communicating a message. What are your tips for clear communication in visual marketing?

Because visual marketing conveys so much on many different levels, I think it’s important to test it and get feedback from multiple sources. Get at least several pairs of eyes to look at any creative work.  Everyone will see it a bit differently.

Less is usually more.  Use sparer images; fewer colors; fewer words.  You may have heard the old saying by author Mark Twain about how if he’d had more time he would have written a shorter letter. It’s true — whether for words or marketing.  It takes active editing to keep something on point and make an impact, whether it is a letter or an advertisement.. So once you create something – edit edit, edit! Don’t let “too much” obscure the message you are trying to deliver.

What do you think 2012 will bring and who are the greatest influencers?

The year 2012 is the year everybody gets tired of a bad economy — hearing about it and being in it.  Take it upon yourself to spice up what you do and resolve to change anything about your business or your personal habits that disappointed you in 2011. Adopt a positive outlook, too. While it takes more than positive thinking alone to make a successful business and a rewarding life, trust me: you’ll have an easier time of it with a positive outlook.

Give us three of the best marketing campaigns of all time and tell us what made them outstanding?

“I Love New York” It packed a punch in just 4 words with a catchy jingle of 4 musical notes. There were a variety of interesting commercials that featured Broadway theater stars and movie actors as part of the whole marketing campaign.  But even if you disregard those, the 3 letters along with a heart image became an iconic logo recognizable the world over.

“I’m lovin’ it” for McDonalds How do you make a fresh impact with a fast food outlet known the world over? You make the campaign about your customers’ love for your product.  And you add in up-to-date dynamism and energy. Just hearing that jingle or seeing it, makes you feel like eating a Big Mac (whether you like them or not!).

The understated elegance of Apple marketing I mean, have you ever seen a more elegant computer store than an Apple store?   Or a classier logo or product design than an Apple product?  Instead of wanting to get out of the store as fast as possible or being afraid to pick something up because you’re intimidated and overwhelmed, the simplicity invites you to touch and experience the items.

Lastly, you’ve recently obtained the ‘head honcho’ role at Bloggertone – I know that plans for 2012 are hush hush , but is there anything you CAN tell us as we are dying to know what to expect.

Well I can say this:  expect to see a new logo in 2012, and some tools you can use to promote your business!  It’s going to be very exciting, and we’re going to take good care of the long-time Bloggertone members.

(Tease!)

Any further questions I should be asking Anita?



The Author:

Christina is a complete geek, hence a perfect web + online marketing consultant. After ten years working with Premier Recruitment Group, LA Fitness, Monarch Airlines, Thomson Travel and a host of other companies, she now owns CG Online Marketing (www.cgonlinemarketing.com) in Ireland and is an associate of the Ahain Group. She's qualified in most things online such as web server management, digital design, Google Analytics and SEO. Specialties: Social Media Marketing, SEO / PPC,Google analytics (qualified in GA IQ) Web trends + insights, Data segmentation and targeting, Customer Behavior analysis, Digital design, Writing, Ethical marketing Green marketing / Sustainable tourism and Hotel + travel online marketing http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com

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  • http://BasicBlogTips.com Ileane

    Christina, you asked some great questions here. I always learn something new about Anita each time I catch one of her interviews. 
    There is one very visual and famous ad campaign that comes to mind for me and it’s the very catchy line that goes like this –  ”easy, breezy, beautiful…” well most likely you know the rest before I even type it in – “Cover Girl”. But if you really think about it, there is nothing easy about putting on make-up (not for me anyway) and it certainly isn’t “breezy” right? Yet they have incorporated many of the concepts that Anita mentioned here. Ironically when I took a look at Mari Smith’s avatar and saw how absolutely stunning she is, I was thinking – she could land a spot on one of those Cover Girl commercials, she’s such a beautiful person too. 
    Thanks for the interview and all the best!

  • Dianne

    This is a great interview, you asked some really great questions and I learned some good “stuff”. Thanks to Anita for sharing, I read her Tweets daily and enjoy her marketing.

    Good stuff! Thanks
    Dianne

  • http://www.tweakyourbiz.com Niall Devitt

    Hi Christina, I’m lucky enough to now be working with Anita at BizSugar and here at Bloggertone, she is also a great mentor and leader.

    I find her observations around headshots and avatars really interesting. Her point that this is often now the first place you are introduced to a business person is something I’ve probably not given enough thought, even though I’m a strong advocate of social media for biz. 

    Also, her points around outbound linking and networking are so important if you want to be a serious business blogger.

    Thanks to Anita for some great insights and well done, Christina for asking such super questions.

    I’ve learnt a lot!
    Niall

  • Móna Wise

    A great interview. Thanks for the tips. I do also believe that the Gravatar/head shot is so important, as is the display of the business (or persons) name. Now, must look into the photoshopping of whiter teeth. 

  • http://www.sianphillips.ie Sian Phillips

    What a great interview Christina – and Anita. I was only thinking last week how interesting it would be to interview Anita. And it certainly is an interesting read

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Hi Dianne, I was hoping to ‘surprise’ Anita, but she’s such a pro!

    Her updates are all so informative and cause you to really look at the world around you.

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Hello Illeane, I find psychology plays a huge role in marketing….these kinds of ads help us to remember them (using catchy phases and rhymes). As Anita knows so well, the visual aspect is extremely powerful and gives a sense of brand and message.

    One of my fave lines was ‘beanz meanz heinz’. Imagine, changing the spelling to fit the rhyme! Simple, catchy and effective.

    I’m sure Mari will love the compliment!!
    Thanks for your comment.

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Hello there Sian,

    Absolutely, she’s a dream to interview and an open book (sorry – terrible pun, considering the title of this blog).

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Thanks Mona.
    I agree – Also great to change it every so often and see what reactions you get.

    Good luck with Photoshop. You can also smooth and brighten the skin, remove stray hairs and make it shinier (not that I did this you understand : 0 ) )

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Hi Niall

    You are indeed a lucky chappy! One of the things that I love about collaboration, is the varied views and ideas. It’s also easy to miss what you’re not looking at.

    Two heads are better than one as they say and I’m guessing Anitas’ counts as ten!

    Cheers….

  • Anonymous

    Hopefully that 10-headed thing isn’t a monster!  LOL :)

  • Anonymous

    I agree, Ileane — the Cover Girl cosmetics marketing is great.  And I also agree about Mari — she could be a cover girl.  Whoever her photographer was, s/he did a great job.  As I learned from my photographer, it is all in the lighting and the angles.

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Heavens no Anita! Just the ability to see different viewpoints and options.

  • http://twitter.com/xcelbusiness Helen Cousins

    I’m speaking at a series of seminars over the next month, and I really like the ideas of a tips sheet for a takeaway.
    Well done, thanks Christina and Anita!
    ~ Helen

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Great stuff Helen…..sure you’ll wow them.

  • http://www.dailyblogtools.com Sai@Dailyblogtools.com

    very interesting interview 

  • http://www.facebook.com/anneperezonline Anne De Pury Perez

    Hi Christina  Great tips from Anita here. I was reminded of one of my favourite marketing campaigns. I dont’ know whether you’ve seen it. It’s for a website called compare the market and the marketing all revolves around meerkats. simply genius.

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    My Mum simply adores that advert! It’s based on the idea of a mascot, or character that people warm to and reminds them of a brand. So cute!

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Why thank you….I enjoyed it…..guessing Anita did too

  • Marietheresewall Ie

    That was a really interesting and informative interview. If I only take one gem away with me it’s the importance of having a headshot – must work on that one! 

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Happy snapping Marie! Post a link/message when you’ve chosen one!

  • http://twitter.com/antonmccarthy Anton McCarthy

    Great interview! I liked the examples given of top marketing campaigns – I really think McDonald’s nailed it with their approach – complete winner! It revitalised a company which was getting serious pressure from healthy-living lobbies, etc, and hardly ever seems to come under the same spotlight these days!  Also agree that less is more – people have so much pushed at them online these days that they have become especially more responsive to a lighter touch.

  • http://www.cgonlinemarketing.com/ Christina Giliberti

    Hi Anton – McDonald’s was into a winner and manged to come up with something fresh, snappy and appealing to various age groups.

    Online can be over-crowded and impactful campaigns with value and less pushy approach fi appear to be performing well.

  • http://Martin.Lindeskog.name lyceum1776

    Fascinating interview! I am writing this comment by logging in via my Twitter profile. Do you like my headphones and background created in Mac’s Photo Booth? ;) As an example on how to create a visual logotype and blog banner, I have attached an image created by fine artist and cartoonist, John Cox. This example is made in black & white. You could see the final version on TeaParty.nu.

  • Janet

    I have a small medical billing service, because  my last client after 16 years, I to lay off numerous people, now its only the remaining 4 (best) highly med-legal orthopedic surgeries…I have been in business for 20 years never marketed, only word of mouth….Now????Not ready to stop working yet and our product is excellent…..These ladies and gents need theyre jobs back….

    Gless Bless
    Janet

  • http://www.ahaingroup.com/ John twohig

    Thank you Christina, I agree fear is a difficult word for people, but not using it does not detract from the reality. People fear change, some use the word dislike or avoid change. This is an attempt to hide from reality. Honesty is also a key missing ingredient on occasion, as we are trying not to up-set people. This actually inhibits peoples growth because if they are not aware of the fault how can they fix it?

  • http://www.garybembridge.com/ Gary Bembridge

    Thanks for the article. In my experience at large companies I think that the fear is driven at “the top” more by lack of understanding of the space. They have grown up with certain tools, which worked for them and helped them get to where they are – but they have not embraced new tools like social media. I think the best way for them to overcome the fear is to personally use the tools. In organisations i worked at we had the top leadership talking and pushing for brands to do more digital and in social media – but they did not really understand what it meant as they were not users – and people knew they ware not using the tools themselves. It is that old “walk the talk”. Companies were the leaders embrace and sue the tools have less fear – and will use them

  • http://www.ahaingroup.com/ John twohig

    In some cases Gary I would agree, it is lack of knowledge. In Ireland a lot of conversations I am having would confirm fear of mistakes and embarrassment, which is not close to good enough. The expertise is here to help companies strategise to avoid this. In a post some months ago I wrote that most age 50+ management in Ireland believe Social is for their children or grand children, to have some fun with. Certainly not for business.

    This has got to change, they are not informing themselves. It would be akin to a doctor proscribing antibiotics from 10 years ago because he/she did not stay current, it would not be tolerated. Online is a huge market, which if harnessed in the correct way would save/create jobs in Ireland.

  • http://www.bloggertone.com Niall Devitt

    Nicely put, John. Most big companies that engage initially do so as a preventative rather than opportunistic measure. I think the biggest hurdle for them is in accepting that their potential for controlling the message is now so much less! This is a new reality, but many senior managers feels more comfortable by continuing to imagine a world that they once knew.      

  • http://www.ahaingroup.com/ John twohig

    Thanks Niall, I agree the control issue is something the online advocates must work to help senior management to understand. We can not stand back and shrug our collective shoulders. This is a barrier to entry for companies and has to be addressed to facilitate them.

  • Davidfitzgerald

    John
    strongly held views well articulated. However as a small business  owner I don’t subscribe to the view that “fear of change” and several other reasons cited for not engaging are the primary drivers.

    For many small business owners still working in their business rather that on it – I think is comes down to resources, available time /opportunity cost, expected ROI , market, and customer profile. This is not necessarily a reflection of a head in the sand but a simple commercial reality.

    Whether these realities prove to be terminal remains to be seen. I suspect corporate failure is the result of many critical strategic management errors rather than just lethargy about social media?

    David

  • http://www.ahaingroup.com/ John twohig

    Hi David, and thanks for the comment.

    For the Sme’s I can kinda agreed with what you are saying. The resources are an issue. Online business advocates are available to you and all Sme’s. I recommend a small business starts with a toe dipping exercise into social.

    The Owner/Manager starts with some research into where their customers spend there online time. 3 million are now online in Ireland, with over 2 million connected to one social platform or another. We are still waiting for last years online sales figures for Ireland, but it was nearly 2 billion euro in 2010.

    That’s a major market, my question would be, how do I get a piece of that:)

    John

    PS Einstein said, the measure of insanity, is to do the same thing over and over but expect different results. I say, innovate and make new mistakes not old ones:)

  • davidquaid

    Hi John

    The problem at the SME and Large Corporation isn’t fear of online, it’s just complete confusion. 

    We’re going to have to stand back and take some responsibility here. The problem for companies is the huge amount of misinformation, confusion and complete rubbish spouted by would-be have-a-go Internet Marketing heroes that have littered the landscape in recent years. 

    My insider joke : “What’s the difference between a guy with a taxi licence and a €200 Toyota and somebody who owns an Internet Marketing company? The guy with the Toyota is licensed and has actually invested in his company”

    Gone are the days when just because you can string together some HTML and it runs in a browser without crashing it = certification to be a web designer. If it’s still theory, then you’re still a student. Just because you built a website and sold something, doesn’t make someone an accomplished internet marketeer, regardless of how “passionate” you are.

    There are so many people who yesterday were driving a truck, being a life coach, selling vacuum cleaners but are now the most passionate online guru’s in the world and if you’ve got money to burn, boy will they help you.

    There are no standards, certifications or metrics by which one provider can be measured against another. I don’t know how many business owners I’ve spoken to and looked them straight in the eye to say “I really don’t know how you pick a good digital provider, there are so many cowboys out there.” If you’ve never been online, then where do you start?

    The second problem is that of control. Mirroring the challenges in the consultant/vendor side – the marketing managers in these companies believe its their job to fix these things. The biggest problem I’ve encountered is where somebody who doesn’t even like the internet suddenly becomes my “manager” and wants to use the company’s digital strategy to “fix” the internet from their perspective. Its crazy!

    How many of us have been in a early day discussions with companies and have realised the following:

    1. The client is spending too long humming and fretting over designs: Design comes from flyer and billboard advertising days where we showed “noise” to 100k people in the hope that just 50 would remember us. Now we can connect directly. Nobody cares if your “above-the-fold” advertising is in a lovely rich and vibrant red – they want to know if you can solve their problem, add value, make them more money or save them some.

    This does a better job: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell

    2. Somebody within the client organisation is actually trying to kill the project. For whatever reason

    3. Somebody on the inside recently read the ramblings of some idiot that somehow favours their cynical view of the internet and therefore justifies their irrational decision making (the irony isn’t lost on me :-P )

    4. Despite all of your past wins and successes, suddenly you are being “managed” by a graduate/intern/lowest possible level because ultimately we all know that the internet is free so why should we pay for you to tell us how it doesn’t work.

    Internet Marketing isn’t about execution. Its about developing a strategy based on a set of activities that have, in the past, proven to work no matter what the company. If your strategy can’t find the money, then you can blame the client all you want for being afraid. If your strategy relies on blind faith, then no wonder people are afraid [confused]. 

    Lets be honest – I know I’m not afraid to be – we have to do better.

  • http://www.ahaingroup.com/ John twohig

    Morning David,

    I couldn’t agree more with you about the level of service provided by some “experts” and the lack of regulation, welcome to Ireland. At some stage the Government will attempt to regulate and give over the job to some equally brilliant organisation such as Fas, to mess it up even more:)

    As a community we do have to take responsibility for the present situation. We have to do so much better to gain companies trust. This will take time and the quick buck merchants will still exist, they always will.

    As for the fear I spoke of in the post. I personally and some involved in our group have reported conversations which took place with senior management. Which were basically, how can we get on line with-out embarrassing the company or ourselves. It’s the old saying, nobody ever got fired for hiring IBM, fear of putting their necks on the block, fear of looking foolish, fear of making a decision.

    It’s human nature.

    John 

  • Rory Noonan

    Timely reminder to us all that the digital age is the way forward, regardless of the type of business you are involved in. Without an online strategy, and lots of companies still don’t seem to have one, you are like John says, burying your head in the sand. But many companies seem to have a fear of embracing this strategy and  shy away. Time to change or you may run out of time to change.
     

  • http://www.ahaingroup.com/ John twohig

    Thanks for the comment, we are half way thru the digital age. Now people have access to instant publication via social platform. In history human beings have never had such access. The printing press started one revolution, maybe digital will start another. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Warren-J-Rutherford/1260515348 Warren J. Rutherford

    John – believe you hit, in the States, a home run (what would the term be in golf or Rugby?)  Organizational change as well as consumer driven change are constant and we are all well advised to listen up and take positive steps as you suggest.

  • http://www.ahaingroup.com/ John twohig

    Thanks for those kind words Warren. Was the home run hit out of the Park? The golf term would be a “Hole in One”.It is not rocket science but behaviours have to change. Enjoy the weekend.

  • Smallbiztrends

    Good article, John.  I think the bigger the company, the harder it is to embrace change.  that’s because so much revenue typically depends on legacy business that it’s hard to justify trying new things.  Companies have a tendency to do what worked in the past because, well, it worked. 

    I will never forget the advice of a mentor of mine in business.  He always said “Look outside the 4 walls.”  And what he meant, of course, is that in the corporate environment you get tunnel vision looking at financials and what has worked in the past — you don’t always look outside.  But you must, because you may find that the world is changing quickly.

    - Anita

  • Smallbiztrends

     Oops — didn’t mean to repeat your comment about the hole in one, John — I missed it the first time!  I agree with it.

  • John Twohig

    Or Anita, maybe the most rare bird of all the Albatross or as you call it in the US a double eagle. 

  • John Twohig

    I agree with what you are saying Anita, particularly about the large companies. Which makes the work of Coca-Cola and Ford, in the Social space, all the more note worthy. Muthar Kent the CEO of Coca-Cola encourages his staff and management, to be “constructively discontent” every day in their work.

    Not a lot of the Fortune 100 companies will take that level of risk.

    Thanks for the comments.

    John

  • John Twohig

    Yes Mark, if you are going to make mistakes, let them be now mistakes. It shows you are taking chances, trying to grow personally or in business.

    Thanks for the comment.