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Roll Up, Roll Up, Free Slaves For All!



Maybe I’m exaggerating a BIT but a quick Twitter search for #slavesIE will point to a growing concern about the seemingly acceptable practice of using Interns as very cheap (or free) labour.

The concern is not unfounded it seems, as even the Irish Government is getting in on the act. A recent Internship offering on JobBridge, advertises the need for a PhD Chemist, who will be paid €50, Intern(yes, FIFTY), per week in addition to their Social Welfare.

While I fully understand that an internship is for inexperienced people, the above example points to a very disturbing trend in Ireland.

Let’s be clear here. The position was advertised by a company who in 2010 had sales of almost $46 billion.

The list of complaints grows by the week;

  • Dublin City of Science to be run by 5 graduates on dole http://t.co/KDoFmK2 – they’ll get extra €10 a day for 9 months #SlavesIE
  • @brenstrong: So #JobBridge internships are dodgy in general, but this listing directly contravenes their “guidelines” http://t.co/tQferry #SlavesIE
  • not only on Twitter but on boards.ie

The outrage even prompted the setting up of  http://slaves.ie , which tracks the hash tag.

And the level to which companies are willing to stoop, for a “free meal” is incredible.

This JobBridge vacancy is for  “an Instructional Designer with a Bachelors degree or equivalent with a strong academic record. Advanced degree a plus. ” who will be required to work 40 hours / week for  “An allowance of €50 per week will be paid in addition to your current Social Welfare payment.

OR maybe you’d like to be a Labourer intern or maintain the upkeep of apartment blocks ?

The list is endless. The lucky intern could “learn” how to be a  Web developer, Marketing Administrator or maybe even and International Sales Manager!

Would you apply to a company who is obviously intent on exploiting the system and you ?

It’s not always about YOUR money

Cost savings are important, but not to the point where they are demeaning to the applicant or even worse, create a situation where employees’ wages are driven down to the level where they cannot afford their most basic expenses.

There have also been cases where employees were made redundant and the very next day an internship, (unpaid of course), was advertised for the position.

The knock on affect of this so called job creation scheme, is that valuable skills are lost and employed people could find themselves on the unemployed list. Not to mention the effect this will have on current wage figures, leading to more people struggling just to make a living.

Lets not forget, that the Government Minsters have warned that unemployed people must re-educate themselves or train for new jobs, leaving them no option but to avail of schemes such as JobBridge, to the possible detriment of currently employed individuals.

How can this even be justified and how does this practice help to drive down the unemployment figures ?

It’s also about your reputation

While cost savings are the obvious keyword here, your company’s reputation could very well be at stake.

The fact that a very well know PR company was publicly lambasted online by hundreds of people for their intern job application, shows that while they may save on a salary, the bad press they received lost them the respect of a lot of their peers and possibly some large contracts.

The outrage poured out on Twitter, LinkedIn and the subject was even picked up by online news sites like broadsheet.ie.

Valuing your staff, (interns or not), can surely only benefit your company, both in terms of staff morale and public perception.

NOT valuing them, can be costly for you and demeaning for them.

I’m all for helping people gain experience. I think it’s vital for this country, especially in these times where we need as many people as possible, thinking, creating and selling, but it must be done to the benefit of all involved.

It seems that in the UK at least, there seems to be a growing movement to make sure that interns are treated fairly. Intern Aware is one such movement and one that should be replicated here in Ireland.

It’s not ALL bad news

While I can’t find a genuine intern positive story YET, the good news is that there are companies out there who value their employees. We should do everything we can, to highlight them, or even better, to follow their lead.

I’d be interested to know if you planning on taking on any interns and what you think is a fair deal for all?

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  • http://www.tweakyourbiz.com Niall Devitt

    Hi Gianni, welcome to Bloggertone and what an interesting first post! While I believe that there is a place for people availing of internships, you raise some worrying trends. I think that there appears to be a need for more regulation so that people are not messed around, I like the slaves.ie idea.

  • Paula

    Great post Gianni! I think the intern situation is just a pyramid scheme of labour value, where the people at the bottom are enticed to invest a sum of their valuable time and effort with the promise of career progression. In fact the only winners are those at the top that go out to play the system. Nobody realises the true damage being done until the whole thing collapses. Taking on an intern should be a big responsibility for the employer in terms of providing good training, advice and other help to the intern.u00a0

  • http://twitter.com/xcelbusiness Helen Cousins

    nnInternships can and should be a two way street. Employers shouldnput in place a formal mentoring programme for interns, so that interns canntruly learn from the experience of other staff. It can be difficult to get anjob without experience, and an internship should bridge that gap. However, somenof the internships that have been advertised appear to be simply job vacancies requiringnexperienced staff, and are potentially exploitative in nature. Bad attitude isnbad business and will rebound on these employers. It would be great to hearnsome positive intern stories from other commenters u2013 hopefully there are some!nThanks Gianni for raising an important ethical issue and welcome tonBloggertone!nnn

  • http://twitter.com/gianniponzi Gianni Ponzi

    Thanks HelennnThe only way is for the Gov to set down much more stringent rules re: internships. I doubt that will happen.

  • http://twitter.com/gianniponzi Gianni Ponzi

    Thanks Paula! nnI think it’s a direct effect of consumers wanting everything for as little as possible. I.e. cheap food, cheap cars etc.nnThis is spilling over into the services industry, so I suppose we’re also partly responsible..

  • http://twitter.com/gianniponzi Gianni Ponzi

    Thanks NiallnnI have to admit it was a bit nerve wracking and I hope the post was up to the Bloggertone standard!

  • http://www.DIYMarketers.com Ivana Taylor

    I can’t speak for Ireland or Europe, and I must come from the stone age, but I would have killed to have an internship –even an unpaid or lowly paid one while I was in school. I came out of college in the. I’d eighties to a “reduced” interest rate of 9% on my college loans and few if any jobs available. An internship at anybprice would have given me the experience that so many employers wanted.nnOnce I finally got my professional job, I was shocked to hear interns “requesting” and demanding perks in addition to the generous salaries they were paid. It seemed to me that theybexpected all the benefits without learning the ropes of the job.nnThre is so much to learn in the real working world that you don’t learn in the classroom that the internship experience in and of itself is valuable.nnOn the other hand, if companies are abusing interns by making them get coffee instead of learning the ropes – then that is a different story. Giving interns the opportunity to experience and learn the job at a Lowe cost is one thing but using them in unrelated areas is something different.

  • http://www.ecoevolution.ie Mary Gethings

    nnI wasnactually discussing this very topic yesterday with a colleague so itu2019s good tonsee this very worrying trend being highlighted. The onus should be on allnemployers to provide mentoring and suitable training for the intern and also benfully responsible for their welfare. Stricter rules and conditions also need tonbe put in place so as to prevent this type of exploitation which sadly seems tonbe on the increase throughout all sectors. Gianni you are so right when you saynu201cvaluing your staff,n(interns or not), can surely only benefit your company, both in terms of staffnmorale and public perceptionu201d. u00a0Alwaysnremember u2018what goes around comes aroundu2019!nnnu00a0nnnIu2019m surenthere are many interns out there who have had a very positive experience andnmany employers who have valued the knowledge and expertise of their interns.nnnu00a0nnnA great first post Gianni!

  • http://twitter.com/gianniponzi Gianni Ponzi

    I understand what you’re saying and I think there are varying degrees of offers of internships.nnI’m not sure what value an internship has, if it’s for cleaning apartments or answering the phone.nnI believe there has to be a value attached for both the company and intern.nnThe examples I posted, are for positions which would normally go to experienced, skilled people. nnThese are not internships as far as I am concerned, but an excuse for cheap labour.nnI’m sure there are many sides to this story, like the interns requesting perks. nnThe scary thing is that only one is very evident.nnPLEASE send on any good news one if you know of them :-)

  • Tommy Collison

    I’m a secondary school student and I interned with a well-known national newspaper for 2 weeks.u00a0nnThe way I see internships and the paid v unpaid debate rests on what the intern is doing. If they’re tangibly helping the company or if they’re there in a largely learning capacity. I was mostly learning in the newspaper (even if I was submitting articles), so I don’t at all feel ‘hard-done by’ that I wasn’t paid. In fact, those newspaper articles are going to stand to me with my college applications in the future — so I would’ve paid THEM to publish articles in my name. I’m okay with unpaid interns if the student is getting other ‘perks’ like helping his college application or learning more about his proposed field of study.nnAnyhow — as a secondary school student, I’m speaking here with absolutely no authority.u00a0

  • http://write-on-track.com Lorna

    As Tommy and others have said below, I think unpaid internship is fine for college leavers and students and is fantastic if they are learning skills that will help them with college applications and getting jobs in the future. But as Gianni has said, the problems lie when companies are using the competitive jobs market to get well qualified and experienced desperate people in to work for them for next to nothing and that’s where the problems lie.

  • http://www.smartsolutions.ie/blog/ Elaine Rogers

    Thanks to Tommy for adding value to this thought provoking, great first BT post Gianni!nnRequiring a PhD or experience for an internship plainly means it is being masked when in reality it should be a proper paying job.nInterns expecting monetary and other “perks” need a reality check.nnTommy puts it well, “those newspaper articles are going to stand to me with my college applications in the future” – clearly a win-win situation for him, and the said newspaper.nnUnfortunately this is a debate that is emotionally fueled, especially now, especially in this country (Ireland)nIf it’s not a win-win situation, then someone is abusing someone else!

  • http://smallbiztrends.com/ Anita Campbell

    Welcome to Bloggertone, Gianni!u00a0 What an interesting first post.u00a0 The headline is particularly good….nn- Anita

  • http://twitter.com/gianniponzi Gianni Ponzi

    Hi TommynnI think we’re talking about differing levels of internships. nn2 weeks work experience is definitely something I would have done willingly as well, taking into account the use they will be to you re: applying for college.My issue is with these 9 month job placements, masquerading as internships.nnThanks for your comments and personally, I don’t think the fact that you’re a secondary student should have any bearing in this conversation. nnYou may have experiences which we haven’t.I for one have never written for a newspaper, so I think one person’s comments are just as important the any others’.

  • http://twitter.com/gianniponzi Gianni Ponzi

    Hi LornannThanks for your comment & well said :-) n

  • http://twitter.com/gianniponzi Gianni Ponzi

    Hi AnitannThank you very much :-) n

  • http://twitter.com/gianniponzi Gianni Ponzi

    Hi ElainennThank you :-) nnIt is an emotional topic and that’s a clear signal that something is wrong.nnI agree re: the perks and I’m not advocating for any suche measures but I do believe that a long term “internship” of 9 months, deserves more than u20ac50 / week.

  • http://www.ecoevolution.ie Mary Gethings

    I wasu00a0 discussing this very topic yesterday with a colleague and it is good to see it being highlighted. The onus should be on the employer to provide mentoring and suitable training for the intern and also be fully responsible for their welfare. Stricter rules and conditions (with no loopholes) need to be put in place so as to prevent this type of exploitation which sadly seems to be very prevelant. nnGianni you are so right when you say valuing your staff, (interns or not), can surely only benefit yourncompany, both in terms of staff morale and public perception.u00a0 nAs the saying goes u2018what goes around comes aroundu2019! So, if employers donu2019t treat staff/interns correctly and with respect u00a0well then at the end of the day it will be their own downfall. Bad press travels very quickly!nIu2019m sure there are many interns out there who have had a very positive experience and many employers who have valued the knowledge and expertise of their interns.nnA great first post Gianni!

  • http://www.ecoevolution.ie Mary Gethings

    I was discussing this very topic yesterday with a colleague and it is good to see it being highlighted. The onus should be on the employer to provide mentoring and suitable training for the intern and also be fully responsible for their welfare. Stricter rules and conditions (with no loopholes) need to be put in place so as to prevent this type of exploitation which sadly seems to be very prevelant. nnGianni you are so right when you say valuing your staff, (interns or not), can surely only benefit yourncompany, both in terms of staff morale and public perception. nAs the saying goes u2018what goes around comes aroundu2019! So, if employers donu2019t treat staff/interns correctly and with respect well then at the end of the day it will be their own downfall. Bad press travels very quickly!nIu2019m sure there are many interns out there who have had a very positive experience and many employers who have valued the knowledge and expertise of their interns.nnA great first post Gianni!u00a0u00a0u00a0u00a0u00a0

  • http://twitter.com/gianniponzi Gianni Ponzi

    Thank you Mary :-) nu00a0